If you have any information about Muriels murder, please contact the South Wales Policevia email at[emailprotected], Mystery of 1946 murder in woods BBC News article, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. Given that Hoyles was the last person to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a thick veil of suspicion. Request number 772/21. Great questions! Hey Babes!I'm back with another True Crime Tuesday case and todays case is about the murder of Muriel Drinkwater also known as the little red riding hood mur. Are you able to tell me if her father has been cleared via DNA profiling?. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! D.S. She said: "He came to public attention in the early 1950s when he was convicted of murdering an older couple. See link to Jones and other murders. A familial DNA profile was extracted using a technique called Y-STR, but no match was found in the national DNA database. He also fixates on the fact that he is married to a younger woman, that she is five years younger than him, that she started going out with him when she was still in school. Murder. It blighted my life. For Hoyles, and no doubt numerous other people in Penllergaer,every dollar spent bringing Muriels killer one step closer to justice has been a dollar well spent. Read about our approach to external linking. 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But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. Read about our approach to external linking. Perhaps one day then there'll still be justice for Muriel Drinkwater - even if it might have to stretch beyond the grave. Both girls were murdered in woods within a half mile of their homes. Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. Despite a number of leads and suspects, police have not been able to identify her killer. [8], Last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11, List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom, "Marwolaeth merch yn parhau'n ddirgelwch", "The Muriel Drinkwater case: can they crack the coldest murder case? from Ron Harries and his cousin and from Muriels coat and yet are not releasing the results of the tests. On July 7, 1946, eleven-year-old Sheila Martin was raped and strangled in woods near her home in Dartford. This seems like a dubious connection because there is roughly 230 miles (370 kilometres) between Dartford and Penllergaer,but on the day of Sheilas murder a large race meeting was held at Brands Hatch with over 9,000 attendees, one of whom could have been both Muriel and Shielas killer. Play it now! The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. Interesting case Christine. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Would you be able to tell me please if Harries has been cleared of Muriels murder as well. Its amazing the documentary could screw things up so much. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a known serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Muriel Drinkwater was born on January 12, 1906 in New York . This post deals with sexual assault and might be triggering for some readers. On his way home, he passed Muriel as she walked along the path. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Enter your email address to receive our monthly newsletter and to be notified about new posts. This will enable the police to identify Muriels murderer by taking and testing swabs from the perpetrators sons, grandsons, or even great-grandsons. Sorry I doubled up on some of the above but cant edit it. People had forgotten it was there. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. They never recovered. DNA was found on evidence & matched a man already in prison. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. Norah Irene Bartlett. Edith Patten had been buried in the old town cemetery and was left behind when officials relocated the graves in the 1930s. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. Evernote. Thank you for the update. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home she was murdered. Thank you for listening to this episode of The True Crime Files. Her mother was in the kitchen and . Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was singing as she walked along the mile-long path to her home after getting off a school bus. "Given the sheer level of violence that he inflicted on his own relatives, I can't quite believe that this would be the first instance of his violence.". Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. Also, as I understand matters, members of Muriels family have given DNA samples to ascertain whether Muriels father may have killed her. Mudgee General Cemetery. Two months too young to face the gallows, he was sent to Usk Prison where he sensationally confessed to the first killing, blaming the voice of a 'demon' in his head. She had been raped, bludgeoned about the head and shot twice in the chest. request regarding the unsolved murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater near Swansea in June 1946. Advertisement. (My belief now is that the suspect he referred to was Hubert Hoyles who as a 13 year-old boy had come into contact with Muriels family shortly before her murder. In the days and weeks that followed, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. 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She goes to grammar school. Video, 00:02:56Detectives to revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. We are hoping to make a BBC documentary (follow on from Dark Son) to see if we can shed any new light on the case. Required fields are marked *. 2023 BBC. However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. She was shot twice in the chest. On June 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea. Thomas was born on July 22 1880, in South Thomaston Knox Maine. On the back of the coat, a no-longer-visible semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Thanks again and take care. The path she walked home on curved in and out of the woods; her mother saw her walking home along the path and into the woods, but not come out again. Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. You can Google ones in your area or check out Twitter (but I recommend checking their credentials). If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. Her murder became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Thanks again ~ Christine, Your email address will not be published. [18] The public can no longer access the Drinkwater files by Freedom of Information Act requests or in person at the archives office in Kew. Jones was released from prison in December of 1941, so he was a free man when Muriel was killed. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. Welsh author Neil Milkinsargues that Harold Jones,a convicted murderer who killed two girls in Abertillery in 1921 when he was just 15 years old, was Muriels killer. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. I appealed that decision and was then informed that as the information I requested was kept in paper format in various locations in South Wales then it would be too costly and time-consuming to check out so the request was denied. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. "Looking through the paper work, we could see the materials had left the crime scene, where it had gone, where it had been examined. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. Hi James. GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS. - Listen to The Unsolved Murder of Muriel Drinkwater by The True Crime Files instantly on your tablet, phone or browser - no downloads needed. In 2008,Detective Chief Inspector Paul Bethell located Muriels blue coat, underwear, and school uniform in police storage. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. On 28 June 2021, I sent the following Freedom of Information Request to South Wales Police. I really appreciate how youre helping keep the true crime community informed on whats going on behind the scenes in this frustrating and heartbreaking case. http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. OnJune 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school inPenllergaer, Swansea. Positive reviews really help others find our show. I am not a DNA scientist so sadly I cannot answer this question for you. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. [4], More than 3,000 mourners attended Drinkwater's funeral on 2 July. It was an article that said that Harries had worked for Muriel's father John at the time of her murder. 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. Another wait and see. Taking into consideration all of the above information and the decades that have passed since Muriel was killed, I think that the only way this case will be closed is through a familial DNA match. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. ~ Christine. Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the Specialist Crime Review Unit said: 'The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Mr Hall, who was intrigued by the unsolved crime, says friends of Muriel remember her as the ``perfect pupil''. Vote. . "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Just a few weeks short of her 13th birthday, Muriel had been beaten on the crown of her head with an object, raped and then shot twice in the . My enquiries are now complete and have led me to believe that Harold Jones would have presented a danger to young girls throughout his life All relevant information has now been presented to South Wales Police, Major Crime Review Unit,who are currently in the process of making further inquiries into the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. Mark Lewis by email of this fact but my email was ignored. . The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. I think it was suggested that the police thought that the family knew more than they were letting on. The 12 year old loved to sing and there was a skip in her step as she started on the winding path through the forest. Video, 00:02:56, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. Like you I hope there is justice one day for Muriel but sadly as more and more time passes I worry that becomes less likely. "(The murder) turned our family upside down and has been talked about through the generations. Hi Neil. After a previous visit to the Drinkwater family farm, Hoyles was surprised when a man in his thirties withthick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket stepped from the bushes at exactly the same location where Muriel was later ambushed. Thanks again and take care. 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